Making Queer History: Connecting our queer history to our queer present.

(Sorry this upload is a bit late!)

In this episode, Laura and Will talk about Joël Gustave Nana Ngongang and Laura recommends:

As of this episode, we are going on hiatus!

Some of you may have noticed that the past couple of podcast episodes have come with a note saying that there are some issues with the audio quality. This is because our new apartment has a couple of noise sources our old one didn't. We have been trying a couple of things to combat this, but a new family with young children just moved in upstairs, and unfortunately, it seems like it is only likely to get worse. 

Luckily, I have been doing some research, and there is a free-to-use recording studio at one of our local libraries, and I think recording the podcast there would be a fantastic solution. Unfortunately, because of COVID19, the studio is not open to podcasters right now. So in order to allow for the best possible quality of sound for future episodes, we have decided to go on hiatus! I am very excited for when we can start the podcast up again, but in the meantime, you can always re-listen to old episodes or read the articles on our websites. We also have a very exciting project this month that's all about King Kristina, so see our social media for that!

As always, thank you so much for listening, and if you have any questions or comments, you can reach us at


[Disclaimer: some of the sources may contain triggering material]

(2015). Africa Mourns the Passing of Distinguished Activist Joel Gustave Nana. Kuchu Times. Retrieved from

(2015). LGBTI activists mourn human rights veteran Joel Nana. 76 Crimes. Retrieved from

Githahu, Mwangi. (2015). Controversial African LGBT activist Joël Nana passes away. Mamba Online. Retrieved from

Myers, JoAnne. (2013). Historical Dictionary of the Lesbian and Gay Liberation Movements. Scarecrow Press.

Nana, Joel. (2006). Academic Challenges Un-African Myth. Behind the Mask. Retrieved by

Lou Sullivan

(There are a couple of audio issues in this podcast episode, we will be making changes to hopefully improve the overall audio quality soon)

In this episode Will and Laura talk about trans activist Lou Sullivan and Will recommends:


[Disclaimer: some of the sources may contain triggering material]

"Lou Sullivan in His Own Words." OurStories, vol. 8, no. 2, Summer 1993, p. 6-7.

“Lou Sullivan.” Lavender Magazine. February 29, 2008.

Lou Sullivan to Judy Van Maasdam, March 22, 1980, The Lou Sullivan Collection, Courtesy LGBT Center at the SF Public Library.

“Lou Sullivan.” We’ve Been Around. Narr. Elliot Montague. 2016.

Pauly, Dr. Ira B. “Female to Gay Male Transsexualism: I, II, III, IIII - Gender & Sexual Orientation.” University of Nevada School of Medicine. Ed. Rev. Megan M. Rohrer. 1988-1990.

Rohrerin, Megan. GLBT Historical Society. Man-i-fest: FTM Mentorship in San Francisco from 1976 - 2009. 2010.

Smith, Dr. Brice D. Lou Sullivan: Daring To Be a Man Among Men. Oakland: Transgress Press, 2017. Print.

Cassia Eller

(Sorry this is late)

Will and Laura discuss Cassia Eller and Laura recommends Take a Hint Dani Brown:

Also the book was actually Descendants of the Crane:

The video about copyright:

[Disclaimer: some of the sources may contain triggering material]

Barteldes, Ernest. “Bye-bye, Bad Girl!” Brazzil. Jan 2002.

“Cassia Eller, 39; Brazilian Rock Singer Known for Brash Style.” Los Angeles Times. 1 Jan 2002.

“Cassia Hardy Found a New Perspective With Her New Identity.” Noisey. Vice.

Gdula, Steve. “Queen of the Carnaval: Lesbian Brazilian Rocker Cassia Eller Dies Just as Her Career Was Really Taking Off.” The Advocate. 2 Mar 2002.

Pinto, César Braga. “Brazilian Songs Out of the Closet.” Brazil-USA News. BMV Digital. 2002.

“Son of Cássia Eller Shudders Audience When Singing Mother’s Song in Rio Presentation.” Extra. Infoglobo. 6 Nov 2015.

“The 100 Greatest Voices of Brazilian Music.” Rolling Stone. Rolling Stone Brasil. October 2012.

Frieda Belinfante

Content Warning: Discussion of Second World War

In this episode, Laura and Will look at the life of Frieda Belinfante and Will recommends Kipo and the age of Wonderbeasts

[Disclaimer: some of the sources may contain triggering material]

“The Frieda Belinfante Collection.” United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Belinfante, Frieda. “Oral history interview with Frieda Belinfante.” Interview by Klaus Müller. United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Collection. 31 May 1994. Transcript:

BUT I WAS A GIRL, The Story of Frieda Belinfante. Dir. Tony Boumans Perf. Frieda Belinfant. Perf. Kenneth Kuhn. 1999. Documentary.

Rosenthal, Michele. “Frieda Belinfante.” Queer Portraits.1 Dec 2016.

Pasles,  Chris. “O.C. Musical Pioneer Frieda Belinfante Dies at 90 : Obituary:  She conducted the Orange County Philharmonic during 1950s. In World War  II, she was in the Dutch underground.” Los Angeles Times. 7 Mar 1995.

Mevis, Annette. Francisca de Haan. Nannie Gillissen. “Belinfante, Frieda (1904-1995).” Digital Women’s Lexicon of the Netherlands. 17 Apr 2017.

Seigel, Amanda. Honoring “LGBT Jewish Holocaust Survivors.” New York Public Library. 6 Jun 2017.

Lesbia Harford

In this episode Will and Laura talk about Lesbia Harford and Laura recommends Ace by Angela Chen

Note: We have just moved, and there are some audio quality issues that should be handled by the next episode but were unfortunately unavoidable

[Disclaimer: some of the sources may contain triggering material]

“Lesbia Harford.” Australian Poetry Library. The University of Sydney.

Harford, Lesbia. The Poems of Lesbia Harford. Melbourne University Press. 1941.

Lamb, Lesley. “Harford, Lesbia Venner.” Australian Dictionary of Biography. Australian National University. 1983.

“Revolutionary Lives: Lesbia Harford.” Red Flag.

“Lesbia Harford.” Podcast. Queer As Fact. 15 Dec. 2017.

Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

Laura and Will discuss Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

Kennedy, Hubert. "Karl Heinrich Ulrichs First Theorist of Homosexuality." Science and Homosexualities. New York: Routledge, 1997. (pp. 26–45).

Kennedy, Hubert. "Ulrichs, Karl Heinrich." The GLBTQ Project. New Jersey: Cleis Press, 2004.

"Karl Heinrich Ulrichs." The Federal Foundation Magnus Hirschfeld. Berlin.

Duhaime, Lloyd. "Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, 1825-1895 (Germany)."

Ed. Michael Lombardi-Nash."Karl Heinrich Ulrichs: Urning Pride and the First Known Gay Activist." 2008.

Baume, Matt. "The Amazing Story of Karl Heinrich Ulrichs and the Birth of Queer Activism." Hornet Stories. 2017.


Will and Laura talk about Coccinelle, politics, and the importance of kindness over achievements. Laura recommends Song of Myself by Walt Whitman.


This episode Laura and Will discuss Zimri Lim and Will recommends The Half of It.

 [Disclaimer: some of the sources may contain triggering material] 

Charpin, Dominique. Writing, Law, and Kingship in Old Babylonian Mesopotamia. University of Chicago Press, 2010.

Eskridge Jr, William N. "A history of same-sex marriage." Virginia Law Review (1993): 1419-1513.

Gagnon, Robert AJ. The Bible and homosexual practice: Texts and hermeneutics. Abingdon Press, 2010.

Ishtup-Ilum,  Governor-Prince of Mari. Basalt figure, c. 1800 BCE. From the palace of  Zimri-Lim. National Museum, Damascus, Syria. Art Resource.

Nemet-Nejat, Karen Rhea. "Women in ancient Mesopotamia." Women’s roles in ancient civilizations (1999): 85-114.

Pardee, Dennis. “The Mari Archives.” Ministry Magazine. Apr 1977.

Paulissian, Robert. "Adoption in ancient Assyria and Babylonia." Journal of Assyrian Academic Studies 13.2 (1999): 5-34.

Edward Carpenter

Dawn Langley Hall

Content warning for mentions of sexual abuse against children in the final third.

We talk about Dawn Langley Hall and sex-positivity and read and reply to some emails.

Will recommends On a Sunbeam, which you can find here


[Disclaimer: Some of the sources may contain triggering material.]

David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library. "Guide to the Dawn Langley Simmons Papers, 1848- 2001, 2012-2014 and undated, bulk 1969-2000." Finding Aid. 2007. Digital Transgender Archive,

Gilbreth, Edward M. “Dawn Langley Simmons Story Still Makes Waves.” Post and Courier, Evening Post Industries, 6 June 2012,

Hitt, Jack. “Dawn.” This American Life, WBEZ Chicago, 28 Feb. 1996,

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "Sex Altered, Author Plans to Wed Butler." Clipping. 1968. Digital Transgender Archive,

Potter, Caroline. “All For Love: The Legend Of Dawn Langley Simmons.” A Sketch Of The Past, 4 Apr. 2014,

Smith, Dinitia. “Dawn Langley Simmons, Flamboyant Writer, Dies at 77.” The New York Times, The New York Times, 23 Sept. 2000,

The Associated Press. "A Miracle Child? Former Male Claims Motherhood; Impossible, Say Doctors." Newspaper. 1960. Digital Transgender Archive,

The Associated Press. "He's A She, Will Marry." Clipping. 1968. Digital Transgender Archive,

The Associated Press. "Man Who Changed Sex to Wed Negro." Clipping. 1968. Digital Transgender Archive,

Unknown. "Newspaper Clipping of Dawn Langley Hall and John Paul Simmons' Wedding."  Photograph. 1969. Digital Transgender Archive,

The News and Courier. "British Writer Married Here After Sex Change." Clipping. 1969.  Digital Transgender Archive,

United Press International. "Dawn Pepita Hall Hopes to Have 3 Children." Clipping. 1969.  Digital Transgender Archive,

United Press International. "Former 'He' to Wed Negro Butler Tonight." Clipping. 1968.  Digital Transgender Archive,

Zagria. “Dawn Langley Simmons (1922 – 2000) Part 2: Wife and Mother.” A Gender Variance Who's Who, 23 Oct. 2009,

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